Not Quite Jocelyn Elders, Not Exactly Nixon Going to China, Still a Good Idea

Summary: Carrie Prejean disgraced herself by publicly opposing same-sex marriage, not for either having a sex life or camera-phoning herself. Sungold proposes an unusual but sensible way she could at least partly redeem herself. Further down, reflections by Sungold, Blue Gal, and Melissa McEwan on the way Prejean’s partner only disgraced himself.

Sungold of Kittywampus says, in all earnestness, that it would be an all-round good thing if conservative-Christian Carrie Prejean just let go of the “scandal” about the private masturbation videos she emailed her erstwhile fiance and let everyone who’s “scandalized” about it fall on their keisters.

After mentioning the disgraceful dismissal of Clinton-era Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders for recommending that we teach young people that masturbation is a safe and effective alternative to partnered sex, Sungold says

Maybe it’s time for us to catch up with history. Here’s where Prejean could play a pivotal role. She could go on Larry King and say, “I’m not here to talk about that tape, which my asshole ex had no right to release. But I will say this: What I did on that tape was perfectly normal. Self-pleasure is perfectly compatible with my Christian beliefs. It’s a great way to get to know your body before you’re ready for partnered sex. It’s a wonderful way to extend your pleasure with a partner. If you’re waiting for marriage to have intercourse, masturbation can help you wait, and you’ll be a better lover when you do say yes.”

I’m still not snarking. If we could just get all those “good Christians” to admit they do it, all of us might be able to have open conversations about it without anyone getting fired or censored.

Read the quote in context here.

Incidentally I’m not snarking either. I’m aware that Prejean might decline to do so, but I’m… pretty sure she’s got the really, seriously, no twits-vs-substance credentials to do so. It would be doing the world a favor and, very likely, do more to promote alternatives to intercourse and other forms of partnered sex than any number of conventional abstinence messaging.

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On a side note I’d add that the less-than-forthright way Prejean has dealt with the revelations seem to have been more damaging to her reputation than the existence of the tapes themselves. They were, after all, perfectly ordinary communications with a partner she was committed to and trusted… which means pretty much the only thing the partner “revealed” was that not only should no future partner trust his honesty, integrity, or discretion but neither should any future employer or client. Further down in her post Sungold nicely addresses the issue of the former partner by the way.

Update: Although see also Blue Gal’s The Donald advises Carrie to become “major porn star”? I’m not going to say the fact that Trump’s recommendation is diametrically opposite Sungold’s is itself a demonstration that she’s on the right track. But…

Update: And also see Melissa’s awesome dissection of Prejean and twits vs. substance at Shakesville.

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wait, all this scandal is because she diddled herself on camera? what the hell is wrong with people? (slightly rhetorical question)

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Oooh, I like the Nixon to China reference – wish I’d thought of it – along with a way to work “keister” in to my post, like you managed to do!

I was talking to my mom about this little brouhaha tonight (I’m visiting my family in California) and when I said that Prejean’s boyfriend was the real jerk, my mom replied, “Well, but she never should have been sending pictures like that to someone she’d only spent a few days with!” And yeah, I agree that on a tactical level it’s only smart to know if a person deserves your trust. But that wasn’t really my mom’s point; she saw Prejean as having made a moral error that largely exculpated the asshole boyfriend. I don’t agree that Prejean deserves blame or shame for not being smart in that way. (There are plenty of other areas where she’s earned our scorn.)

Anyway, my mom is a pretty good proxy for nice mainline Christian people. I think Prejean would get an awful lot of pushback from older Christians, even those who aren’t especially conservative. But she’d really only need to reach the young ‘uns, who in my experience tend to be far more socially liberal than their elders.

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Thanks for the link. I actually take issue with Melissa in my post: Prejean’s privacy was violated, but that incident is not, imho, an example that “contributes to the rape culture” as Melissa says in her post, nor do I think releasing the tapes constitutes any form of sexual assault of Prejean.

Feminists can disagree, it appears. :)

[“Feminists can disagree, it appears.” It would be kind of creepy if they didn’t. What I liked about McEwan’s post was her articulation of how making didn’t make her homophobia more wrong. More specifically, sort of in keeping with your’s and Sungold’s position, she was just doing something that people who are partners do. What’s wrong isn’t that she did things partners do, it’s that she doesn’t want some people to have the same freedom to do it that she has.

In other words it’s not just that feminists either agree or disagree without being inconsistent — they can do both! Thanks, BG! —fl]

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