Pluralist of Feministing Community has a really cool post up about the near side of non-consensual “gray area” sex.
What makes it a great illustration is that the sexes were reversed! (Emphasis hers.)
Since November my best friend has been having relationship problems. She is cis and het as is her boyfriend and they’ve been a committed and monogamous relationship for about 4 years now. The whole story is too long to recount, but as of a week ago they began a “break they need in order to stay together”.
Suffice it to say the first two days were hellish as I talked to one of the loves my life breaking down over the phone. But during one of the more lucid moments, she told me that – among a lot of alleged grievances – she had (unknowingly) forced her boyfriend into sex.
Apparently he had said things along the lines of “I’m too tired right now, let’s just go to sleep” and she had continued to proposition him thinking “welll, this will help you sleep better!” My immediate reaction was that there was no way she had coerced or pressured him into sex. After all, he should’ve just said “No really, I don’t want to do this right now” if she kept at it. It was his fault for not stopping the encounter.
And then I realized that had this been a woman in his place – not to mention my best friend – I would never have given this consideration. I was victim-blaming, basing my assumptions in tropes of male hypersexuality and female passivity. She didn’t handcuff him to a heater and force-feed him viagra . She’s a nice girl, she couldn’t have done that!
I talk a lot more about the paradigmatic social assumptions that women belong to the “no-sex” class — sugar, spice, everything nice, sure, but also possessing no autonomous sexual agency. Unless they’re somehow “broken,” or “damaged goods.” I don’t talk so much about the other side, the equally strong assumption that men are the sex class — obligate, reflexive, indiscriminating, and single-mindedly ready for sex. Unless, again, there’s something wrong with them. But it’s just as big a deal.
Inside the dominant paradigm it’s as unheard of for a man to say “no” as for a woman to say “yes.” Inside the paradigm, with it’s bogus Two Rules of Desire, the ratchet of initiative alway clicks in one direction.
This too has its consequences. It doesn’t just assume women never mind not having sex, it also assumes men never mind having it. One consequence would be Pluralist’s friend assuming her partner was having a momentary brain fart or something therefore his “no” couldn’t possibly really mean no. So she kept trying.
As I said up at the top this is way over on the near side of the “gray area.” A little persistence, especially in a long-term relationship where one partner’s behavior is perhaps uncharacteristic, is an unfortunate failure to recognize that no means no, but not an appalling one.
That said, whereas it’s way over this way verging into “no harm then no foul” territory, as Pluralist hinted and one commenter stated very clearly, however mild-sounding the incident
Obviously, something went wrong in this particular case if the guy is bringing it up as a grievance.
Therefore not “no harm then no foul.”
So if her failure to acknowledge or respect his decision wasn’t appalling it wasn’t benign either.
So there’s definitely still something to talk about.
I pressured a boy into sex once and I still feel bad about it. We’re not friends anymore and that makes me sad :( And, no, I wouldn’t call it rape, and having been on the receiving end of similar behavior I definitely didn’t call it rape then either. It’s one of those “if people give you mixed signals it’s probably because they have mixed feelings” things. He wasn’t totally against the idea of sex with me, but it would have been nicer of me to have let him sort out his mixed feelings on the subject rather than push ahead paying attention to only the positive communications and ignoring the negative ones. It would be nice if people could be clear all the time, but sometimes they just can’t.
sigh
This can be a tricky thing. I’ve been on the receiving end of pressure and gone ahead with sex and ended up really enjoying myself and being glad I did it. And I’ve gone ahead with sex and ended up feeling really abused and alienated. I suspect most people have. And it’s hard to pick just one thing that distinguished the situations, one thing that crossed the line. It was a combination of the circumstances, the things that were said and not said, just how persistent the other person was, and – I think this is a big part of it – whether I went along with sex because I was starting to get turned on, maybe even turned on by the other person’s persistence (another person’s desire can be an aphrodisiac) or whether I went along because it just seemed easier than continuing to argue about it.
One more point – one I almost didn’t bring up at all because I don’t want to distract from the main point – but I do think this is related:
The other week, you had a post about how it’s probably at least as common for men to have lower libidos than their female partners, but we only ever hear about – and take it as axiomatic – that men always have the higher libido.
Several commenters, including me, talked about how, when you’re the woman and the partner with the higher sex drive, this trope can make you feel like a freak. And several other commenters made very reasonable and nice-sounding comments about how compromise means not just the higher-libido partner making do with less sex than they’d like, but also the lower-libido partner finding ways to meet their partner’s needs.
What no one came back and said – but what I was thinking at the time – is that that rarely ends up working because that type of compromise would mean one of the parties having sex when they really don’t want to, which isn’t something most of us would suggest as a reasonable solution and it’s ultimately not really what the high-libido partner wants. (What the high-libido partner really wants is for their partner to have a higher libido and actually want to have sex more often.)
The reason I bring this up here is that in longer-term relationships, unsuccessful attempts to negotiate that whole terrain can too easily end up in situations like the one in the post. Legitimate feelings of hurt, neglect, disappointment, etc., can pretty easily lead to illegitimate feelings of entitlement: Why is this person denying me? And it also can be pretty easy to project your own desire onto the other person: I’m hot and bothered. We both know sex feels good. If they would just try it, they’d remember that they like it. And so on.
You’re actually talking about one of the reason my last relationship didn’t work out. Of course there were more than one reason, but an unsatisfactory sex life was one of them.
There were times I got the feeling he wasn’t really sexually interested in me, and I was always the one to suggest taking things to ‘the next level’. I made the suggestion of sleeping over, that it was okay to do more than just kiss and finally I realised it wasn’t the kind of relationship I wanted, always having to take the initiative and suggest new things.
Like I said it was one of the reasons, but it was a pretty big reason. We had hid it off really well from the moment we met sharing many interest, but the relationship didn’t work out nearly as well. I didn’t want to pressure him too much, so I took it slow hoping he would do things by himself at some point. It never happened and finally I gave up with the realisation that we just didn’t want the same things.
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