Occasional pornographer Tony Comstock of Kōan of Silence asks
...if porn’s so great, how come after more than 40 years of (relatively) legal status, there’s still not much that’s worth defending on anything more than principle?
Porn’s changed dramatically since 1970, dramatically for the better even. And for the most part our attitudes towards porn have changed as well. But in terms of end result I’m not going to quibble much.
I’m aware that it’s no more reasonable to expect one genre of media to change the national conversation any more than any other… but for all the hoopla since Deep Throat changed the conversation about women’s role in sex and Last Tango in Paris won an Academy Award what’s porn done for our sex lives that, say, fast food hasn’t done for our diets?
It could have done more. And possibly might. And someday still might. But for various reasons ranging from the narrow-mindedness of its purveyors to the small mindedness of its critics to the, um, single-mindedness of its consumers it…
hasn’t.

Photo “Pie eating contest” by Flickr user penelopejonze. Used under a Creative Commons license.
Adam Serwer of The American Prospect brings up an interesting perspective on obscenity in music that seems pretty relevant to porn as well. It’s about Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan.
In 1989, Elena Kagan filed an amicus brief arguing that 2 Live Crew’s album, As Nasty As They Wanna Be, which had been banned by a federal judge because of its sexual content, wasn’t obscene in part because no one could possibly be aroused by it. “Nasty does not physically excite anyone who hears it,” Kagan wrote, “much less arouse a shameful and morbid sexual response.” A higher court ultimately overturned the ban.
Serwer’s hook was that 2 Live Crew has endorsed Kagan’s nomination. My hook would be that for better or worse Kagan’s argument could have been used to defend the disgraceful “obscenity” prosecution and conviction of the equally Max Hardcore “porn” performer. Who, for all protestations notwithstanding amounted to so many Johnny Knoxville Jackass episodes plus genitals.
Update: Doh! I forgot about the photo of the gross-out pie-eating contest. I’d originally meant to tie in this Jezebel post, The New Pornography: Competitive Eating?, by Katy Kelleher. Sorry about that.
Well this is about as random as my posts get. So since the beginning of the year my family has been watching an episode per day of the teenage-Superman soap opera Smallville. Go Netflix. For some reason the combination of angst, adventure, intrigue, romance, danger, lust, and parental modeling has just worked to keep us in all-ages conversation about all sorts of things. We’re currently toward the end of season seven, which is probably more episodes of anything I’ve ever watched. Go figure. But I digress…
Today for some reason I decided I wanted to know what Michael Rosenbaum looks like with hair. He’s the guy who plays the perpetually, almost delightfully complex Lex Luthor character.
Anyway (yeah, yeah, I’m getting to the point) I found a bunch of photos on Google Images (the link, again) and randomly clicked on a thumbnail, expecting to get a better look.
What I didn’t expect, but what I instead got, was a link to page “M” of a blog called Ticklish Male Celebrities, hosted by Lady, evidently from Bulgaria (judging from her email domain’s country code) who’s description reads
I’m a woman of art, who has one weird… weakness – ticklish guys :)
The side description says
The blog’s besically an alphabetical list of famous actors/musicians/writers/footballers, etc, who’ve admitted they’re ticklish. You can check the “Tickling Media Forum” to see their list of male celebs, so you’d know where I got most of the information from. Myspace mesaging also helped LOL :) I’d also upload photos of the guys in question, barefoot if possible.
That’s pretty much exactly what the blog is about. It’s been around since September, 2008, which makes it fairly venerable in blog years. And though the unusual method of just adding new entries to one of 26 “alphabetical” posts makes it hard to tell, Lady keeps it active and up to date.
Anyway, if you’re into very, very soft-core “man candy” images, or if you’re into mostly-barefoot men, or if you’re into ticklish men, or you’re just looking for unusual celebrity trivia the site could be just the ticket.
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Doh! While researching fetishes (there’s this persistent but obviously mistaken belief, going back to Freud no less, that only men have fetishes) I discovered that, according to The Manual of International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-10 version 2005), something is technically a fetish if and only if it involves a fixation on or use of inanimate objects for sexual gratification. If one is instead attached to activities instead of inanimate objects then the technical vocabulary is “paraphilia.” I think most people have probably heard the term paraphlia. What I didn’t know was that when one is erotically fascinated by specific body parts like feet or hair it’s called “partialism.” Since most people’s sexual attachments to objects, activities, or body parts aren’t obsessive enough to count as “diseases and related health problems,” though, it’s fine to lump them all together or to mix or match them. Or you could just call it all “kink.” Or, as long as it really isn’t interferingly obsessive, since appreciation for sexual variation is actually pretty common you could do what I do and call it “normal.”
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Getting back to my original obscure intention, the photos of Michael Rosenbaum didn’t really show what he looks like with hair so my search continues. But just for the record here’s her entry on Rosenbaum, bare feet and ticklishness quotes included.
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Michael Rosenbaum (plays Lex Luthor on “Smallville”) This is how his AOL Live interview went (9/02)..
Hi Michael! Are you a ticklish guy? If so, where?MichaelRLive: “Sure. Where am I not, that’s the question.”
http://www.michaelrosenbaum.com/aol.html
Cool and completely unexpected discovery.
On the offhand chance you’d like to hear just how often I can say “um” in a single sentence, Maymay of KinkForAll.org has posted an audio version of my first public presentation in several years (and only about my third public presentation ever!)
Here’s a link to the audio version.
And here’s a link to the possibly less-caffeinated post I wrote in conjunction with it: Define Your Terms Before Debating: The Social Construction of Porn and Erotica
Also, now’s as good a time to add something I didn’t say either in the presentation or its accompanying post. To determine or even adopt one’s opponents terms in a debate is not the same thing, at all, as unilaterally compromising with one’s opponent. Nor does it have to be a giant ordeal — for instance you could just say “Before we go any further when I say ‘porn’ I mean all materials with erotic or sexual content of any kind. What do you mean when you say ‘porn?’”
Amanda Hess of Washington City Paper’s TheSexist blog has a great takedown of the whole slut-shaming extravaganza surrounding any women, but particularly
“celebrity” women, who ever, anywhere, for any reason, mix sex and cameras. And while you should definitely go read the whole thing (a conversation with Sadie Doyle who’s also just sharp) one particular piece really stands out.
It’s about tisk-tiskers who fret endlessly about “vulnerable” victims without… well, here’s Amanda
...while I understand the practical concerns involved here, and think everyone should be educated about the risks of sexual intercourse, people who trump up “personal responsibility” while doing no fucking work to help make bad “consequences” of sex any better just essentially think people who have sex OUGHT TO BE punished for it. These are the same arguments against abortion, the same arguments against working to stop HIV, the same arguments against working to stop rape.
The reason they do no fucking work to help make bad consequences is that at the end of the day they endorse the consequences! 100% The victim’s suffering and humiliation makes them object lessons (cough, objects, cough) that ideally encourage others not to follow suit.
If you, like the organizers and presenters at the Stop Porn Now conference underway in Boston this weekend, accept the strict definition of “pornography” I mentioned in Define Your Terms Before Debating: The Social Construction of Porn and Erotica then you’re going to have to go to considerable effort to deny that people like Matie Fricker and Molly Adler, the narrators in the video below, exist.
Again, it’s highly unlikely that Fricker and Adler are any more tolerant of exploitative, coercive, violating, violent, high-risk, unsafe, objectifying, and disrespectful porn than they’re likely to tolerate dangerous and phthalate-laden sex toys. But they call what they do sell “porn.”
In hashing out the debates between, say, Violet Blue’s new Our Porn, Ourselves and this weekend’s Stop Porn Culture conference it’s really important to make sure everyone’s defining their terms the same way.
In conversations this week I was reminded again how many bitter opponents of “porn” will add the qualification that they have no problem at all with “erotica.”
This is a bigger deal than you might think.
For a lot of people the word “pornography” means, by definition, arousal-oriented text and images that are calculatedly exploitative, coercive, violating, violent, high-risk, unsafe, objectifying, and disrespectful.
For instance Andrea Dworkin and Catherine MacKinnon defined it very specifically in their model antipornography civil rights ordinance
“Pornography” means the graphic sexually explicit subordination of women through pictures and/or words, including by electronic or other data retrieval systems
If that’s your definition, and then if someone else tells you they’re on their way to the Feminist Porn Awards there’s going to be a little cognitive dissonance. If that’s your definition then “feminist porn” is going to sound as intentionally, incomprehensibly, insultingly disingenuous as “vegetarian beef.” If that’s not the other person’s definition then there’s going to be a… communications breakdown.
Here’s the problem: A lot of people who define porn the way “anti-porn” activists do define material that’s not those things as “erotica.” And just so you know, in numbers that might surprise you a lot of people who are “anti-porn” can speak very fondly about the pleasures of erotica. Similarly, the vast majority of progressives and feminists who speak fondly of porn are also opposed, often bitterly, to “arousal-oriented text and images that are calculatedly exploitative, coercive, violating, violent, high-risk, unsafe, objectifying, and disrespectful.”
In other words many people who see themselves as “anti-porn” are actually perfectly comfortable with porn (i.e. erotica.) And many people who see themselves as “pro-porn” are actually anti-porn (i.e. unsafe, non-consensual, etc.)
You can quibble about the terms, and it’s certainly not the case that it’s just all one big misunderstanding. For instance some anti-porn really are opposed to any kind of representations of erotic material at all, period. And people really are so committed to tolerance of free speech that they refuse to condemn any kind of porn, period. No matter what terms you use, reconciling those two extreme positions is going to be very hard. On the other hand there’s still a lot of room in the middle where using the same terms would be very useful for discussion.
But if you don’t get that there’s a technical definition of “porn” that’s different from the way it’s more generally used then clear debate is going to be pretty much impossible.
Speaking of Susannah Breslin, back in April she had another post at The Frisky about women who watch porn, and why. She introduces it with a heaping helping of the bogus Two Rules of Desire explaining why she thinks women watch porn.
Recently, it was revealed that 17 members of the SEC were downloading large quantities of porn at work while the nation’s economy was going down the toilet. The real shocker? While many who heard the story assumed—unthinkingly—all of those SEC employees were men, at least one of them was a woman. “The female accountant tried to access online pornography from her office laptop nearly 1,800 times in two weeks,” Forbes reports. “She also had 600 sexually explicit images saved on her hard drive.” And that, my friends, is a lot of porn. The lessons to be learned? 1. Don’t download porn at work. 2. Women watch porn, too.
While the number of visits per day is definitely eyebrow-raising number (180 site visits a day from work no less, wouldn’t seem to leave much time for anything else) Breslin’s declaration of shock seems a lot more like rote stereotype buy-in for her audience than genuine professional surprise. It’s true that more men than women view some kind of porn, just like it’s true that more women than men read some kind of romance… but the overlap in both directions is very large. But whatev’s. If that’s the tone the Frisky’s editors wanted Breslin to take they got what they wanted.
Anyway, after her intro the the ten reasons she gives for women, from curiosity (including “freakshow” curiosity) to comparison anxiety to looking for pointers to aiding masturbation to ogling naked bodies of their preferred sex, don’t sound much different from men.
To be even more fair to Breslin, by the way, I’m not holding her responsible for the really annoying image that accompanies here post. (It’s a conventionally-presentable young woman looking shocked and concerned at something on an off-camera computer screen.)
* Obligatory disclaimer: Yes, yes, I’m sure some viewers picked out Max Hardcore videos because for them watching someone pee in another person’s ear is the most erotic experience evaaarrr. But I’m even more sure the rest were doing the equivalent rubbernecking at a carnival freak show.
One of the weirder, much-less noted phenomena of internet and porn culture is that a lot of people now have a better idea what a penis looks like erect than how they look most of the time. Even if they don’t participate in online dating websites! :-) But seriously, chances are that thanks to the pervasiveness of porn and its collateral practices most people have now seen more naked men with erections than men without.
If you’d been making predictions about the future of the internet back in, say, 1992-1994 I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t have made very many people’s lists.
Speaking for myself my days of posting penises, of any sort at all, are pretty much over. But as long as I’m here I might as well add that I am still quietly participating in the Half-Nekkid Thursday photo meme. (No penises but not especially safe for work either.)
Note: All links in this post have NSFW content.
So via a @filamentmag tweet I found the website Naked Men, Happy Women, by essiegabi. But she’s got a significant problem.
Since I’ve long been irked by the dearth of representations of men in visual erotica that aren’t by or for other men (either as objects of desire for gay men, or as proxies or foils for hetero men) her About Page is near and dear to my heart.
Nowadays images of naked women are commonly shown everywhere; in advertisements, commercials, games and movies, art, on billboards and on TV. A naked female body is pleasant to look at, so no complaints here. But something is missing, isn’t there?
Have you, like me, been wondering why there is so little male nudity in every day life for us hetero sexual women to enjoy? Do you agree it is unfair to say the least, and do you want to see more? Then this blog is the perfect blog for you. Naked men, happy women, aka NMHW, is created to discuss various related topics with you, to post examples of how things could/should be, and to find ways to change the current situation to our advantage. It is about time men catch up with us when it comes to showing their goodies, and even more for us women to tell them what we want.
But she’s got a significant problem.
The images she captures really aren’t what you see in male-oriented porn. Including so-called “Clothed Female, Naked Men” or CFNM fetish sites that are… also generally considered male-oriented. One thing that stands out, or maybe doesn’t, is that when penises are shown they’re almost never erect. Another is that the men might be erotically posed but not erotically poised — they look neither dominantly nor submissively ready, and they don’t look sexually needy. Instead the photos essiegabi selects are relaxed men with clear potential to be sexual. Oh yeah, and while the men are generally under age 40 (and mostly under 30) and none seem overweight, neither are they all athletically or militarily buff. In other words they tend to look the way a lot of women say they like to see men, as opposed to what men seem to think women like… or as opposed to how men expect other men to look.
I like the site quite a lot, and if you’re turned on by heterosexual men you may like it even more. But there’s a significant problem. Essiegabie explains the problem
Oh no, it is Tuesday already. Where is our new hottie?!
I have to admit it: I am running out of stock…
After hours of surfing the net and almost giving up hope, I finally found this image.
If she wanted images of eroticized women she could find them anywhere up to and including the covers of Sukudo puzzle books. If she wanted images of men in stylized porn-for-men situations she’d have to look a little further than the nearest grocery store aisle but such images are still abundant on magazine racks and online…
But if she wants to find images that work for her she’s evidently got to work really hard. Considering that there may be literally (not figuratively) millions of porn sites out there, with anywhere from tens to hundreds of million images, and considering that you can almost play “Pornsite Bingo” by Googling a completely random words and the word “porn” and find someone who’s already made a fetish site for it with surprising regularity, it’s a real surprise she’d have any trouble at all…
And yet…
It appears to be a significant problem.