Wow, I’ve just uncovered a ton of draft posts that for some reason (probably episodes of writer’s block) just needed a sentence or two to finish and post. This one’s from last September! Sorry about the delay! —fl
Bond of Dear Diaspora has a cool, cool post about body image, presentation, and visual “truth.” (Emphasis mine)
A friend of mine explains our mutual friend’s recent swing toward femininity by saying that she’s interested in being sexy and attractive.
Another friend complains to me about someone responding to her masculine clothes by lamenting that she has such a nice figure, why doesn’t she show it off?
These are two incidents among many like them, all pointing toward the same conclusion: there is one right, attractive way to present a female body.
Let us first establish that presentation is not true. Not so much in the “don’t judge a book by its cover” sense as: there are a hundred ways to represent something, and done properly, each of them is extremely convincing, so convincing you will find yourself believing it.
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My choice to de-emphasize my breasts and draw attention to my shoulders is no less accurate or honest an image than the opposite. Both the breasts and the shoulders are mine. I should be able to position them however I want.
I realize it might already be obvious to everyone else but me. And goodness knows appearance, appearing, and the performance of appearance have been heavily critiqued. What I appreciate about this, though, is that what Bond’s talking about is about her intention to be seen.
Anyway, it makes sense. I mean, we all already appear different to other people. For instance without dressing or standing differently at all I look old to my children, young to my parents.
Sure, there’s the perfectly real chance that while Bond might prefer to draw attention to her shoulders, and her friend to her breasts, onlookers might instead direct their attention somewhere else entirely (e.g. face, legs, hands.) Lead a horse to water and all that. But it makes sense that it would be legitimate for us to condition how we’re seen by others based on our image of ourselves and based on the image we desire to present.
Britni of Oh My God, That Britni’s Shameless, who blogs about sex toys as well as sexual assault, counseling, feminism, and BDSM, has a PSA about pernicious myths about “stretched out” vaginas.
Attention people (especially guys, because they seem to be guilty of this most often) that are grossed out by women sticking large objects in their vaginas: SHUT THE FUCK UP. Don’t be horrified by the size of the toy and please, don’t make comments about the woman getting “stretched out.” Because guess what? VAGINAS ARE STRETCHY AND ELASTIC. After a fist has been in there, it retracts back to normal very quickly. The same with a toy like Randy. Yes, the vagina will stretch and expand to take the large object. But the elasticity also means that it will shrink back again.
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[S]he can push a baby out of that thing; a fist is nothing! So you and your penis need to stop with the inferiority complex and marvel at the wonderous things that vaginas can do. ‘Mkay?
Even more eerie? When I did that really massive survey of Tumbler-style porn-photo blogs earlier this year I was reminded again that most people don’t seem get that women’s vulvas change when they’re aroused. Like, a lot. Like that old lyric “lips so sweet and tender / like petals falling apart” vulvas don’t just become “moist,” they engorge with blood — the outer labia push out and open, the inner labia can become almost erect, and the swelling of the clitoral hood led early researchers to mistakenly think the clitoris lost its erection as orgasm approached. If you’re completely clueless about women’s actual bodies, and actual sexuality it might seem alarming; once you figure it out it’s kind of awesome.
A surprisingly common reaction when someone miraculously does appear to be engorged and juicy with her own actual lubrication is that she looks “stretched out.” Hello! You know how people talk about porn giving people the wrong expectations? That’s a really wrong expectation! (As bad as seeing only unaroused penises in porn and then deciding you had to ice them when they got erect because otherwise they looked “wrong.”)
BTW, I’ve got very large hands and yeah, just moments after fifteen minutes of allllmoost (did I mention I have very large hands) fisting someone she squeezed my perfectly-average size hard enough to make me jump. It felt very nice but it was also a very strong squeeze. So yeah, inserting something even very large doesn’t even temporarily “stretch out” anyone’s vagina.
Em & Lo, blogging at SUNFiltered say
Meryl Streep, our new hero, on sex scenes between older people: “The whole idea that you have to look a certain way and be a certain age to earn love is ridiculous. We love what we love. It doesn’t matter what shape it is. It’s thrilling to see real people on screen.”
I’m not going to just want to be having sex when I’m old, I want to be sexy too. Sexy being at least 50% a state of mind, a good way to make that possible is to acknowledge that sex doesn’t stop at age 25. Nor is sex with the lights on.
Streep, who (like many of us have and almost all of us will) tried 25 for a year but moved on, is a wonderful ambassador for that message.
Summary: Based on the disconnect between a woman’s response to men’s concern this is a meditation on how men use our own criteria for determining the significance of penis size to women.
In response to… quite a few other comments on an advice post at Em & Lo titled “My Boyfriend Has a Small Penis,” where the correspondent complained her new boyfriend’s penis was 5-6 inches long a commenter named SP said
Guys, really, 5″ isn’t a small penis! It’s average; no woman in her right mind would look at you and feel short changed. I can’t believe more than 1% of all women out there would think 5″ is too small. I had no idea so many of you [guys] feel this much pain about this issue. That was tough to read, especially since I know your dick size doesn’t matter! Don’t believe the hype!
No wonder Em & Lo made it that week’s Comment of the Week. I say good call.
As I read through the comments it’s actually clear that while penis size really does matters but it doesn’t matter much. To women.
It seems to matter quite a lot to men, who evidently can’t shake the notion that it matters, a lot, to women. Yes, it actually does matter to at least some women too — else the original correspondent wouldn’t have written her letter to Em & Lo in the first place. But that’s not the same as mattering to everybody. Or even mattering the same way to those for whom it does matter.
Honestly, though, it’s like men worrying about preferences for chin size, or hairline, or chest hair, or age, or smell. (Aside: No need to do the cliché opposite-sex comparisons, and just because they’re popular doesn’t breast-size/penis-size analogies are a good idea anyway.)
What’s funny, though, is that some women really do only want partners who are older than them. Or want men who smell better to them. Or men with certain accents, or faces, or hair. Or, oh, say, “men who are not muscle-bound; men with more feminine face shapes, men with attractive faces“
Yet men rarely take those “inadequacies” to heart. We rarely, say, compare our feet to other men’s in the locker room and worry that this one or that might be a better dancer.
Hearing that some women prefer bigger penises, though, puts an awful lot of men in a tizzy. Let one man’s penis be even a little bit bigger than another’s and reassurances notwithstanding there’s a good chance second one will decide the larger guy would be every potential partner’s first choice.
At any rate, I think the commenter’s bafflement nicely illustrates the difference in the way penis size matters to women vs. the way it matters to men.
Incidentally (and this relates to the comment thread in Melissa’s fascinating post about men and body image at Feministing Community) I think a lot of this derives from men’s self-indoctrination in Rule #2 of the bogus Two Rules of Desire: it is simultaneously inconceivable and intolerable for a man to be sexually desired. Lacking an understanding of men’s appeal to women in general we can’t locate penis-size preference as one among our partners’ many perfectly real but also perfectly flexible preferences.
Unrelated conversations overheard in a community-college cafe: at one nearby a young man telling someone he thought another lip ring would “help;” at another table an older woman telling a friend that getting breast implants made her feel like she “had herself back” after her children grew up.
Boy, it’s really up to each of us how we choose to modify our bodies. Tattoos, piercings, braces, haircuts and shaving, dieting, working out, tanning, hair plugs for men, and so on are all ok, I guess. And if we can stick things in our ears, noses, bellybuttons, scalps (hair plugs again) and lips then I guess you can stick things in your chest too.
Which is a long way of saying yeah, if you want to modify your body then go for it. Just don’t do it because you feel inadequate, or unattractive, or “if only I had…” because, you know, it doesn’t “improve” other people. So why should it “improve you?” On the other hand, just like a tattoo or a tan or all the other things we do to ourselves it will decorate you. And if you’re into self-decorating, and not “improving” then, again, that’s completely up to you.
Which gets to my main point: I don’t think you’d let someone browbeat you into getting a tattoo because they wanted you to have one. And I don’t think many people would buy someone else saying “if you’d just dye your hair blue could find a partner.” And so, thinking about implants as decoration you can sort of immunize yourself from what you think anyone else would like, in favor of what you’d actually like.
Anyway, keeping in mind that some things, like tans and haircuts can grow out while tattoos and implants… not so much, the real question being not just so much what you do as what’s the long-term impact on your health. A boob job is a much bigger risk than body piercing. (Take it from me: recovering from general anesthesia is not the same as the day after Quaaludes and tequila. And recovery from surgery hurts! Complications from surgery can hurt too.)
On the other hand in the long run it may have less health impact than, say, chronic tanning. Which we tend not to think of as “body modification” at all.
A post from last April about Unforseen Consequences of Men Believing Themselves Unseen has been picked up on by the social-referral site StumbleUpon.com. I’m glad it’s been picked up — I think it’s a good piece about an important topic. I have no idea, however, who originally, um, stumbled upon the post and linked it, nor how to find that original link so I could thank or otherwise credit them.
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Bridget Crawford of Feminist Law Professors has a thoughtful analysis of body-hair removal in the face of increasing marketing of shaving products and services to men. (She reports one Gillette tagline goes “you might say when there’s no underbrush, the tree looks taller.”)
While I strongly disagree that shaving one’s pubic hair makes one look prepubescent (when was the last time you heard that description of a man who shaves?) I agree with Crawford that body-hair removal for both women and men is closely associated with the culture of youth.
Example A? The “problem” of back hair. Back hair doesn’t really start to sprout in men till middle age. And so ads for back hair removal (either temporary or permanent) are a staple of aging-youth-oriented alt-weekly newspapers, where such ads are at least as common as ads for “bikini line” waxing.
Crawford says, sensibly,
[H]airlessness  obtained naturally or by grooming  is a sign of youth (the pre-pubescent look), body-consciousness (I can see those abs glisten!), self-care (when you trim your nails, trim your hairs) and other-regarding (how thoughtful of you to anticipate that I wouldn’t like hair up my nose  wait a sec, did you assume I’d be visiting this part of your anatomy on a first date?).
A marketing technique will be a sure winner if it appeals to men’s desire to feel, um, large. There’s a reason that Trojans don’t come in size “small.”
The hairless look? Shows off a guy’s “equipment,” in Gillette’s lexicon.
Anyone who’s eagerly looking forward to her or his partner sprouting those tufty little middle-age patches of hair on his back, shoulders, and the backs of his upper arms pipe up.
But if, as I suspect, anti-ancillary hair bias is as strong against men as it is against women, an even more effective marketing strategy would be to taunt men for looking like skeevy old men.
Also, her sentence “how thoughtful of you to anticipate that I wouldn’t like hair up my nose” can be read two ways for anyone over 40, for whom lushly abundant nose hair may be “perfectly natural” but is rarely greeted by partners with any hint of enthusiasm.
Via Maxwell Hammer of News for Perverts here’s a YouTube version of an ad that’s evidently not being shown in Australia.
Hammer’s take is that Australia is more prudish than America. My take is that prudish or not the male centrism is kind of out of control in the sense that people with really big boobs… even boobs they can’t see their shoes over… tend to have spacial awareness and kinesthetic agility such that they can see… pretty much everything. Especially given that to reach one’s mid-twenties implies that one was once in one’s two’s, three’s, five’s, eleven’s and consequently even if they’d been pubescently precocious they’d have long-since figured out how to see around and over them. Oh, and speaking of seeing, someone cognitively capable of addressing a service person would most likely have seen the platter as it was being set before her and so she would have registered that fries were present even if they were momentarily obscured.
Aww, that’s just me being no fun at all. I know, maybe she’s got short-term memory loss from, say, a stroke, medication, a blow to the head, or maybe a date rape drug like flunitrazepam. Ha ha, wouldn’t that be a riot!
Dang, I’m still not getting into it. I know, maybe she’s a 21st-Century version of Fred McMurray in the Absent-Minded Professor and she’s got her head so wrapped around a problem in the synthesis of amphiphilic block-copolymers it’s a marvel she remembered to order fries at all. Hey, now that would actually be pretty funny.
Another post I’ve been meaning to get to. Back in April Margaret Jezebel let us know about a new dating website.
Do you hate wasting your time dating guys and learning all about their thoughts and feelings only to find out later that they have an average-sized penis? Then 7orbetter.com is the dating site for you.
7orbetter.com is a new site for people interested in meeting men with penises that are seven inches or longer. According to the website, the mission of 7orbetter.com is to let women know “upfront if a man has what it takes to satisfy you sexually.”
Margaret quotes Washington City Paper writer Amanda Hess’s wry reaction
Isn’t society just terrible? A “properly behaved woman” who is only interested in men with huge penises may have to wait months-months!-before figuring out that the man that she has spent months falling in love with has been hiding a dick that’s slightly too small to deserve that love. Now, with Seven or Better, that woman can know from the first date the exact dimensions of that penis she doesn’t want to see yet.
Margaret adds that the site welcomes people of all persuasions including men seeking men and, perhaps less intuitively, women seeking women. She also says the editors want some sort of 3rd-party verification and they take a dim view of “any photograph [they deem] to be of such superior quality (i.e. modeling shots, magazine pages, etc,) that it raises the question of that photograph not being a reasonable representation of said member.” It’s not clear what exactly they mean by “said member.”
I know men are raised to believe that length of erection is better but, at least on the heterosexual side most people I know who’ve expressed a preference seem to prefer girth over length.
It’s all moot to me, of course. I may be tall, and I may have big hands, but I’m otherwise perfectly average.
Weekend editor Hortense of Jezebel says
Oh, internet. Without you, how would we ever learn about Boytaurs and those who love them? According to Urlesque, there’s an entire (NSFW) Boytaur site devoted to those who prefer “pony boys with octopus arms.”
Boytaurs fall into several categories, apparently: either half-man, half-horse, or just men with multiple arms and legs. “Of course, many boytaurs don’t stop with four legs,” notes the site, “Some add more legs, going six-legged or more. Some add extra arms. And many, enjoying all their boytaur feet, decide to go wristfooted as well.”
She found the link via URLesque.com
To be honest I’m not terribly impressed. I’m not sure the site’s intention is even erotic so much as more of the same old iconic/stereotypic/lookee-thar. And pretty much by definition photoshopping men’s torsos on to horse bodies (let alone photoshopping more muscles onto already musclebound men) doesn’t representing the erotic possibilities inherent in the figure of the ordinary heterosexual male. Still, if manamal mashups are your thing boytaur.com seems to be your go-to destination.
If you’re an adult you can click here to see a possibly not-work-safe image.