Harriet Jacobs of Fugitivus, who works in a municipal (I think) legal justice system and volunteers to help pregnant minors obtain parental-notification exemptions for abortions has the rundown on just how her state’s (and very likely most states’) rape-victim exemptions work. Or rather don’t.
I’m not saying that there aren’t some stone cold stupid obnoxious young boys out there who are getting their counterparts pregnant. I know there are. When girls who were knocked up by age-appropriate boyfriends come in, the boyfriends come with them (and make out in court). Girls who come in alone, I assume, didn’t have a boyfriend; they had an abuser. Now, technically, there’s a rape exception in the notification law. If you have been raped, you do not have to go through the judicial bypass — you get a bonus abortion, no paternalism attached! But because, lord knows, women are big fat liars about rape, and because women will resort to desperate measures to acquire medical care that we all know they don’t really need (what they need is a baby), a girl can’t just say she was raped and get a free bypass. She has to report her rape to the police. And since the police are going to tell your parents anyway, well, in for a penny, in for a pound.
I can’t conceive of any possible scenario where a girl reports her rape to the police, but hides her pregnancy and subsequent abortion from her parents, the police, the investigators, the judge, the jury, and the attorneys. I suppose it is possible, but is it probable? Is it reasonable? We don’t trust these girls with the decision to have or not have children, but we think they should be capable of maintaining an intense secret after a horrific trauma and during police and attorney interrogation?
So the exception for the bypass law is, in this case, completely self-defeating. For a girl to meet the criteria for the exception, she will no longer need the bypass. Which again shows you the intent of the law, and the exception: neither were ever instituted with the intention that they be used. Additionally, knowing that the rape exception was only added after intense public pressure illustrates its function quite clearly: the rape exception is to make politicians look like something less than paternalistic monsters, while preserving the paternalistically monstrous power to deny all young women (including rape victims) the right to access desperately needed medical care.
When I was a teen peer counselor back in the days before the Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade my home state had a variety of too-clever-by-half laws that defined things like 10-month review processes for pregnancy terminations. It was part of the insult legislators routinely added to add calculated insult to often very-real injury.
This sort of unusable rape “exception” suggests only that they’re more sophisticated, not that they’re any less clever-by-half, nor any less interested in insulting and injuring.
It’s still not ok.
While cruising through an otherwise bland and unexceptional discussion of how we in the west have tended to disregard positive economic trends in India, China, Indonesia, Brazil, and much of Africa Tyler Cowen of Marginal Revolution hits a reef.
Expounding on his latest New York Times opinion column he says
1. Babies are pretty cheap to feed. In the short run, if your economy grows, and at the same time produces more infants, the adults are still better off.
Hmm… any unstated assumptions in that assertion? My own experience of babies was that my partner’s economic productivity was radically curtailed for approximately six months each time — three months before birth as she became less and less able to work, and three months after while feeding the baby and regenerating her body.
So yeah, assuming you’re a working Ozzie Nelson with wife Harriet and Ethel the Maid staying at home with the children then the marginal cost of one more baby is low. In much of the world — outside, say, suburban northern Virginia where Cowen lives — babies don’t come out of economic black-box vending machines, they come out of economic contributors, a.k.a. working human beings. Point being the cost of pregnancy to women isn’t limited to the cost of feeding babies.
Seriously. “Babies are pretty cheap.” Yeah, they’re cheap if and only if one artificially limits or (as with Cowen’s brand of economics) completely ignore women as economic contributors instead of domestic baby factories.
Question: if “babies are pretty cheap” why is it so many women in Africa, China, India, Brazil, Indonesia and elsewhere prefer to take contraceptives when they’re available and affordable rather than not take them? By Cowen’s thesis they should be “better off” limiting pregnancy only when the cost of feeding babies exceeds the cost of the contraceptives themselves. By his thesis the cost of feeding babies should, in fact, be the only consideration when women assess whether they wish to use birth control. Right? And yet we find… nothing could be further from the truth.
Seriously! I mean, seriously!
Summary: Are boyfriends really “most likely to disappear” when their partners become pregnant? Fact or cultural gender messaging? And who’s decision?
Echidne of the Snakes, while doing an otherwise pitch-perfect job of countering anti-choice slippery-slopery, hits one hypothetical that seems like it might be a flat note:
If she gets pregnant, the boyfriend most likely disappears…
Is this true? Are boyfriends most likely to disappear when their partner gets pregnant?
Just considering a second possiblity from the considerable range of reactions I’d think the boyfriend would be at least as likely to propose marriage as disappear.
Unless, of course, by “disappear” Echidne (who’s hypothetical involves underaged, underprivileged Salvadorians) means “murdered by the girl’s family members in an attempt to defend their family’s ‘honor.’” Which, come to think of it, maybe she does mean.
Based on my own peer-counseling experiences as a teenager in southern Appalachia before Roe v. Wade was handed down relationships involving pregnancy where generally much tighter between the boy and girl themselves than between their families. And when pregnancies were discovered it tended to be the families of both teens that created the separations. And enforced them. Against the wishes of either teenager.
Anyway, what’s your first, second or third-hand experience with this sort of thing? Are boys and/or men really “most likely to disappear when their partner gets pregnant?” I mean, maybe they are! Even though I don’t think so. I’m not going to trust my cultural messaging (which would be similar to Echidne’s) nor can I trust my own non-trivial but also not statistically significant anecdotal experience (which would be that disappearances aren’t “most likely” and when they do occur are often enforced rather than desired.) Instead I just really don’t know.
Which is why I’m asking.
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For the record the rest of Echidne’s post really is cool and well-worth a read.
I’m quoting the entirety of Robin Marty’s post about the surgical completion of her miscarriage at RHRealityCheck.org.
This weekend, a group of male pro-life Democrats gambled with women’s health, and women lost. By broadly writing in that insurers can chose whether or not to cover “abortion services,” pro-life amendments don’t just affect their intended victims — women seeking a way out of an unwanted or medically harmful pregnancy. They also affect another group of victims — women whose pregnancies have already ended but have not yet miscarried.
I’m one of those women, and this past Halloween I had what the hospital officially termed an “abortion.”
Hospitals and doctors in general do not have terminology to classify a difference between the termination of a live pregnancy and one in which the fetus has already died. To them, a D&C is a D&C, regardless of the state of the “conception materials” removed. Regardless of how many times I made sure to mention to the staff, either for the sake of my sanity or to spare me some sort of imagined shame, that I was ridding myself of my “dead fetus,” to them, it was all the same.
I had learned the day before that the baby I thought was nearly 12 weeks old had no heartbeat, and had actually died at 8 weeks. I was given three options: wait for a miscarriage to occur on its own, something I was told my body had no intention of doing anytime soon, take medication that would expel the fetus, passing it in my own home (classified a “chemical abortion”) or come in for a D&C to remove the fetal materials.
As much as I struggled with the sudden realization that the pregnancy was over, I also found myself trying to decide financially what I was willing to do. A chemical abortion would cost $40, but I would be alone, bleeding, and it could still be incomplete and I would require a D&C anyway, since my pregnancy was so advanced. Surgery would be quick, total, and under controlled circumstances, but would likely be our full maxed insurance amount of $1500. And of course, there was the free option of waiting for my body to finally realize I wasn’t pregnant, but after 4 weeks the risk of infection was steadily climbing, increasing my chances of future miscarriage, infertility, or even death. With a toddler at home, and still nursing hopes for extending our family some day, this was not an option.
I chose the quick and total route of the D&C, despite the costs, prioritizing my health and the health of possible future children. I was lucky, and could afford to make that choice, because currently, my insurance cannot chose to refuse to cover what the hospital as termed an abortion.
Thanks to the Stupak amendment, that can now change.
Abortion is a very broad term. The pro-life contingent would like you to think it only applies to selfish, irresponsible women, murdering babies out of fear of inconvenience. That’s a caricature they have invented to push their own agenda. Many of the women who seek out abortions are women who have been raped, who have learned that their child could not survive, have learned that giving birth could physically and permanently harm them. Or, thanks to newer and vaguer language, women who have already lost the life they were carrying, and need intervention to save their own.
I was one of the latter. I hope I will be lucky enough to never be again. But if I am, I hope the insurers don’t force me to carry that fetus until I medically harm myself, all for the sake of saying that they do not cover abortion services.
About 14 years ago this month my partner began to miscarry our first planned, wanted pregnancy. We discovered just how shallow “pro-life” commitment to “life” really is. You want to force someone to stay pregnant, boy, those are the folks to call. You want to do anything to actually, you know, keep a wanted “beating heart” beating they generally don’t even understand the question.
The best our chosen-in-an-emergency “pro-life” OB/Gyn could do? “Well, just go home and hope it stops.” After 24 more hours of bloody contractions she reluctantly gave my partner a vacuum extraction. The best part? As she was doing the procedure she admitted that she hadn’t done “very may of these.”
That’s “pro-life” training and the whole “pro-life” mindset for you. I’m sure even Rep. Stupak and the men (and they’re overwhelmingly men) who voted with him probably wouldn’t think that was hunky-dory. But that’s the problem: I’m pretty sure they’re not really thinking about it at all. They’re too busy “feeling good” about themselves.
Sadie of Jezebel says
We got a number of distressed emails about a recent piece in Details. Possibly because the description read, “Getting tricked into fatherhood by a woman hell-bent on getting pregnant is much more common than you think.” Good to know!
Deceptive, baby-hungry women have always been a staple of male-mythology; punching a hole in a condom is the sort of thing we like to do between maxing out guys’ credit cards on shoes and sleeping with their best friends. So it’s not shocking that this particular urban horror story should make the lad-mag rounds just in time for Halloween.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m sure there are as many women who perforate condoms in order to get pregnant with their unwilling partners as there are men who do so to get their unwilling partner’s pregnant, i.e. some but not very many and certainly not enough to warrant a “words of warning” article in Details. (I mean… seriously, in the average Details readers dreams do women want to have their babies!) Sadie puts it in perspective:
For every Cosmo-wielding nutter this guy dredged up (and I’d really like to see the email he sent out requesting quotes from “friends”) he could have found ten thousand who found the idea not merely abhorrent, but insulting and frankly incomprehensible.
Of course, to the author it makes total sense
For the record, one needn’t be “pro-life” to recoil in horror at the implications of one adult using actual pregnancy as a ploy or, worse, punishment against another. It is absolutely and unequivocally a woman’s right to choose whether she will keep a pregnancy to term. It is not, however, the right of any party to chose parenthood for another without his or her competent decision to do so. And while some religious denominations might be sanguine about it, the idea of one person potentially creating a third human being for use as an instrument against another strikes me as brutal, thoughtless, and deeply alienated from the condition of being human. And can I just say it’s also a lousy, lousy reason to have sex. I don’t mention it as often anymore but this is the sort of thing I mean when I say I’m a prudish libertine: mutually agreed-upon sex is great. Mutually agreed-upon procreation is also great (as can be mutually agreed-upon sex for procreation.) Sex to make someone an unsuspecting parent, though, is just ewww!
But the above paragraph is a digression: Details- and perhaps Cosmo-reader fantasies notwithstanding, the likelihood of one adult partner attempting to make an involuntary parent of the other is vanishingly small when compared with, oh, say, the chances of both parties being confronted with the possibility of an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy do to failure to use contraception either correctly or, for that matter, at all. It would be lovely if Details, and its sister (in spirit if not in fact) publication, encouraged deeper introspection in that direction.
Back in June, 2008, when George Bush was still president, Barack Obama was nothing but a junior in-the-minority-party Senator from Illinois who thought he could get away with challenging Hillary Clinton for the nomination, Denise Grady of The New York Times wrote
When the Golden Rule Insurance Company rejected her application for health coverage last year, Peggy Robertson was mystified.
“It made no sense,” said Ms. Robertson, 39, who lives in Centennial, Colo. “I’m in perfect health.”
She was turned down because she had given birth by Caesarean section. Having the operation once increases the odds that it will be performed again, and if she became pregnant and needed another Caesarean, Golden Rule did not want to pay for it. A letter from the company explained that if she had been sterilized after the Caesarean, or if she were over 40 and had given birth two or more years before applying, she might have qualified.
I admit the impression I got when I read the write-up at DailyKos was that this had all happened just a day or two ago and just around the corner. But just a little bit of Googling demonstrated it’s not actually topical at all…
...or wouldn’t be if…
...it wasn’t a perfect snapshot of the kind of jackass crap that drove the initiative for healthcare reform in the first place!
And why didn’t we hear howls from various and assorted right-wing psycho teabaggers, tenthers, and deathers with travel and sign-making expense accounts from Fox “News?” Well, you could say it was because Golden Rule is a private corporation and therefore more Infallable in Every Decision than the pope. But it could also be because Golden Rule’s founder was a major right-wing moneybags. But I digress.
The fact of the matter is that (going perhaps against common progressive wisdom) the environment private insurance operates into is aggressively stacked against it — yeah, they make money… and for that matter yeah, they can only make money by fucking sick people over — and it’s bull-whiz like telling healthy women they have to get sterilized before they can get insurance is a perfect example of why they’re not up to the task.
Golden Rule, a relatively small insurer (however pretentious its erstwhile pretentions of grandeur might have been) didn’t have the clout to negotiate efficiently with major medical centers that provide things like, oh, say, birthing centers and obstetrics surgeries. So they did what by the “logic” of the marketplace made the second-most sense: they refused to insure someone with FHPS (fecund healthy person syndrome.)
The idea behind healthcare reform, even the really watered-down versions, is in classic (Teddy) Roosevelt style, to create big enough markets for medical services to rebalance the market clout of service providers.
The reason people keep talking about a public option (and why, by the way, we need one) is that insurance-industry assholes like the little pencil-pecker at Golden Rule who cooked up the get-sterilized-first exception are still there pecking away with their pencils. A public option will help keep them in check as well. Not so much by increasing their profitability as giving people an alternative when their private insurer of choice starts making out-of-control demands.
But seriously? Get a caesarian before you get Healthcare? That might have been fine for George Bush and what was left of his party in 2008. But this is America and that kind of crap… from a pro-life private company, by the way, was and is intolerable.
In her unfortunately-subtitled post about being parent to a newborn, Katie Roiphe writes at Double-XX “When the baby was four weeks old… I apologized and told him that I couldn’t sign books, that I had to run home.”
She also said
I remember visiting one of my closest friends on her maternity leave last summer. We sat on a wooden bench in her garden and drank iced coffees, and gazed at her second baby. She is a writer, and we talked about how the women writers we most admired had no children, or have had one child, at the absolute most, but never two. (Edith Wharton, Virginia Woolf and Jane Austen had no children; Mary McCarthy, Rebecca West, Joan Didion, and Janet Malcolm all had one.) My friend looked down at her newborn and her tiny eyelashes. She could entertain this conversation in an academic way, but as she adjusted the baby’s hat I could see how far removed it was from anything that mattered to her. Here, sitting in the garden, looking at the eyelashes, would you trade the baby for the possibility of writing The House of Mirth? You would not.
Vicki Iovine, mother of four children and, ahem, author of at least four books and numerous articles, wrote in the staggeringly stealth-brilliant The Girlfriends’ Guide to Pregnancy that we forget to take into account the post-delivery “fourth trimester” at our peril. That was her term for the foggy, sleep-deprived shakedown/recovery period that goes almost entirely unmentioned in medical and anecdotal parenting lore. People who adopt newborns report something similar, and after only four weeks I certainly couldn’t stay focused when I was away from home either. So it’s not too surprising that Roiphe had a hard time at her book signing.
Just one more reason we have feminism to thank for the Family Leave Act. And one more reason why American feminists continue to advocate amending the act to make it paid leave. Just saying.
Doh! But then we get to the real rub in Roiphe’s article:
One of the minor dishonesties of the feminist movement has been to underestimate the passion of this time, to try for a rational, politically expedient assessment. Historically, feminists have emphasized the difficulty, the drudgery of new motherhood. They have tried to analogize childcare to the work of men; and so for a long time, women have called motherhood a “vocation.” The act of caring for a baby is demanding, and arduous, of course, but it is wilder and more narcotic than any kind of work I have ever done.
Um, no, it hasn’t. One major dishonesty of anti-feminism is that these feelings are exclusive to biological mothers. As I mentioned they’re not. Not for fathers. Not for adoptive parents.
And if I may anticipate a possible objection to the preceding point, a second dishonesty of anti-feminism is that new mothers are perfectly prepared to be left at home to resume any and all prior domestic duties, including caring for previous children, as soon as they return from the birthing center and their partner returns to work. If you’ve been pregnant then even if you’re not caring for a newborn that 4th trimester (which, remember, takes its pound of flesh from fathers and adoptive parents too) is not recovered from overnight or in a couple of days. And so no, the average mother of the average newborn is probably not ready to be dropped back into her domestic routine. And, thus, probably not ready to hop back into a career either. (See, again, Family Leave Act and recommended extensions.)
Point being that if Roiphe feels feminism wrongly pressures women to believe they should resume their duties before they’re ready, and if it’s true that feminism actually does say having a newborn should have no, zero, none impact on one’s career, authorial or otherwise, then that’s a fault feminism shares with anti-feminism.
And srsly, 17th-Century women’s activist Anne Hutchinson (ahem, author of no major books but any number of lectures and sermons) was pregnant with her 15th child when she went her local Puritan magistrates put her on trial for blasphemy and sedition. And so again what’s Roiphe’s point about feminism being indifferent to women before, during, or after pregnancy compared to its contemporaries — in the Colonial era or any other?
Interesting post at Jezebel called Male Midwife: Women Need Childbirth Pain To “Prepare” for Demands Of Motherhood”. Anna N quotes a midwife, Dr. Denis Walsh, who says
Pain in labour is a purposeful, useful thing, which has quite a number of benefits, such as preparing a mother for the responsibility of nurturing a newborn baby.
What. Ever. The only thing interesting about this guy is that he’s a guy in the first place. At least in American midwifery (where women midwives outnumber men by… um… I’ve never heard a male midwife named before, let alone quoted, even though I know there are a few of them) that kind of “no pain, no gain” school of thought is very common. So the only interesting thing about the original article is that they found a male one.
(Aside: Exactly WTF about everyday motherhood is so exacting or extraordinary that only the pain of unmediated labor and delivery can prepare one for it?)
Finally, as observers of pregnancy, childbirth, and parenting around the world frequently note, Dr. Walsh’s affection for maternal pain and suffering is not confined to midwives.
For the record there are other, less ideological schools of thought in midwifery that strongly advance maximizing control of labor and delivery decisions (a.k.a. agency), and minimize medicalization for the convenience of caregivers, without… um… fetishizing pain, risk, and potential loss for its own sake. Loss of control is loss of control, shaming is shaming, and “shut up, this is good for you” is just as crappy regardless of the ideology of the individual or institution making the pronunciation.
But!
That’s not what I wanted to post about. Instead it’s the interesting proposition raised by Kiskilili of Zelophehad’s Daughters
Eve’s curse is famously (at least, depending on how one parses it) twofold: “in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee” (Genesis 3:16). Eve is punished both with painful parturition and with marital subordination.
Granted, we’ve softened the language of that second mandate somewhat. But, I wonder, by what hermeneutical criterion have we rejected the first section entirely while adopting the second, even in modified form? Why do Church leaders not issue statements reminding women that God has always intended for childbirth to be painful, and therefore to avoid epidurals (or anything else that might unnecessarily ease the process)? If, on the other hand, we contend that the first statement to Eve is nothing more than a description, on what basis can we maintain that the second is meant prescriptively?
Furthermore, in comments Kiskilili adds
I’ve sometimes wondered myself why, for example, men don’t formally take upon themselves the obligation to work by the sweat of their brows. It looks very much to me as though we’re picking and choosing our commandments when it comes to this story.
The full quote from Genesis 3 (King James Version) is
16 To the woman he said,
“I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
with pain you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
17 To Adam he said,
“Because you listened to your wife
and ate from the tree about which I commanded you,
‘You must not eat of it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
So… what’s the takeaway here?
Mine would be that even if you were a Biblical literalist… maybe especially if you were a Biblical literalist, you’d read that passage as a straight-up punishment of Adam and Eve for their specific behavior and that would be the end of the story. And literalist or not, there’s nothing there holding their descendants to different standards either of sweat or suffering depending on gender.
“It grosses me out that someone would bring up the elasticity of a woman’s vagina when talking about her success at her job.” Context here.
Crikies!
Tip: I hate to even bring this up but… assuming it was even remotely relevant to anyone but a partner it really doesn’t make that much difference.