Via Discover Magazine’s NCBI ROFL blog an Egyptian medical research team has a paper out called An electrophysiologic study of female ejaculation. Here’s the abstract ROFL cited
Opinions vary over whether female ejaculation exists or not. We investigated the hypothesis that female orgasm is not associated with ejaculation. Thirty-eight healthy women were studied. The study comprised of glans clitoris electrovibration with simultaneous recording of vaginal and uterine pressures as well as electromyography of corpus cavernous and ischio- and bulbo-cavernosus muscles. Glans clitoris electrovibration was continued until and throughout orgasm. Upon glans clitoris electrovibration, vaginal and uterine pressures as well as corpus cavernous electromyography diminished until a full erection occurred when the silent cavernosus muscles were activated. At orgasm, the electromyography of ischio-and bulbo-cavernosus muscles increased intermittently. The female orgasm was not associated with the appearance of fluid coming out of the vagina or urethra.
Lest one imagine the researchers (led by the late Ali. A. Shafik of Cairo University) were singling out one sex for electromyographic scrutiny they’ve also published Electromyographic study of ejaculatory mechanism.
Cavernosus muscle (CM), seminal vesicle (SV) and vasal ampullary (VA) contractions at ejaculation are said to be reflex mechanisms (ejaculatory reflex), which have been scarcely dealt with in the literature. We investigated the hypothesis that contraction of the CMs, SVs and VA at ejaculation is a reflex action. The electromyographic (EMG) activity of CM, SV and VA during ejaculation was recorded in 28 healthy men. The test was repeated after separate anaesthetization of the glans penis (GP), CMs, SVs, and VA in the pre-ejaculatory period. Latent ejaculatory time (LET) was calculated. CMs showed no EMG activity until rigid erection phase was reached. SVs and VA exhibited resting EMG activity which increased gradually with different stages of erection. At ejaculation, CMs, SVs and VA showed two to four intermittent contractions. The mean LET was 1.3 +/- 0.2 sec. GP anaesthetization led to the disappearance of CM, SV and VA EMG activity at ejaculation, while bland gel did not affect EMG activity. CMs, SVs and VA when anaesthetized in the pre-ejaculatory period exhibited no EMG activity at ejaculation, while saline did not affect EMG activity. Increased EMG activity of CM, SV and VA apparently denotes increase in their contractile activity. CM, SV and VA contraction on GP stimulation and ejaculation are assumed to be reflex actions and are mediated through the ‘glans-cavernosovesicular reflex’ (GCVR) which presumably represents the ejaculatory reflex. Changes in LET or evoked response would indicate a defect in the reflex pathway. The GCVR might act as an investigative tool in diagnosing erectile dysfunction, provided further studies are performed in this respect.
And I might as well add that Shafik actually authored or co-authored an astonishing number of similar papers dealing with neuromuscular activity of the general pelvis, urogenital area, and lower intestinal tract.
Now when I saw the name it rang a bell and I realized Mary Roach had written about him in her (excellent) book about sex research, Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex.
While Googling to confirm the connection (she did write about him) I ran across an interview of Roach by NPR’s Robert Siegel. Seigel approached the subject matter a little glibly, as mainstream types often feel obliged to do, and after a bit of mocking of Shafik’s self-funding, his seeming remoteness from western medicine (although he was often published in reputable peer-reviewed proctology, urology, andrology, and gynecology journals), and an admittedly goofy-sounding paper studying the effect of polyester on rat fertility, he asked Roach
SIEGEL: Well, after meeting people like Dr. Shafik in Cairo, and you and your husband taking part in a study with Dr. Dang in London and so many other interviews you report on on the book, then what do you come away, what’s the takeaway knowledge you have from having written “Bonk”?
And I think she just knocked the answer right out of the park (emphasis mine.)
MS. ROACH: Well, I think that one of the things that I’m left with is a lingering sense of surprise that there are still a good number of mysteries in the realm of sexual physiology.
You kind of have the sense – as a person who has sex, you figure, well, you know, it seems to work, what else do we need to know, which is kind of a ridiculous attitude. That would be like somebody saying to a person who’s studying, say, the esophageal sphincter, well, we all know how to eat, why do we need to study that?
SIEGEL: Mm-hmm.
MS. ROACH: So, I come against that all the time. People are saying, well, what’s the point of this research, you know? Tell me something I don’t know about sex. We don’t know, for example, the mechanisms of ejaculation, what the trigger is for that. And there’ve been all kinds of elaborate and quite frightening little studies that have been done in that realm, just any number of things that we really should still be looking into, and yet it’s very difficult for sex researchers to get funding for purely anatomical and physiological research these days.
The mild rebuke is well taken. The researchers Roach documented often are a little goofy, they usually are self-funded, they often are from seemingly-obscure parts of the world, and even when much of their work is actually credible when they’re cited in the mainstream press (whether by NPR or Discover Magazine) it’s their whackiest work that gets singled out rather than their more useful work.
I like her useful comparison of attitudes towards sex and food since I’m often taken by the analogies. If our social attitudes were reversed you really might be as difficult to get funding for credible research in the U.S. and western Europe. We might instead be subjected to knee-squeezingly embarrassed radio discussions of the swallowing reflex and other bodily functions above the belt.
Do we really need to know more about the electromyography of ischio-and bulbo-cavernosus muscles in women or the the ‘glans-cavernosovesicular reflex’ in men as it pertains to sexual arousal, orgasm, and/or ejaculation (male or female?) Why as a matter of fact we do.
Because, not to put too fine a point on it, laughing is not the only thing we enjoy doing while rolling on the floor.
I can’t do links from this phone but this story has been repeated several times. I found it most recently on DailyKos.
Stephen Colbert: The Rev. George Rekers, this mastiff of masculinity, is co-founder with Dr. James Dobson of the Family Research Council, and he’s on the board of The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, or NARTH, which is dedicated to turning gay people straight again. So you’ll never guess who this alpha dog recently took on a ten-day, all-expense-paid trip to Europe. Unless…you guess “gay male prostitute.”
Ok, there’s a genuinely funny play-on-words punchline and sure the guy’s a hypocrite. Got that. But the substantial part that keeps getting missed isn’t that Rekers hired a male sex worker even though he’s head of a “gay cure” enterprise.
The real issue is that as head of the enterprise Rekers had access to literally all the best ex-gay “technology,” and access to the best support resources within his network, and a direct financial, professional, and possibly even personal reasons to take advantage of all of them.
And yet…
The substance of the issue isn’t its potential for knee-squeezIng humor or scorn, it’s that even under ideal conditions, and even for Rekers, “ex-gay therapy” didn’t work!.
(Signature: composed on a hand-held — pardon any typos.)
So anti-feminist darling Kathleen Parker of the Washington Post just won a Pulitzer Prize for commentary.
The editors at The American Prospect blog TAPPED posted a reminiscence of Parker by TAP’s Kerry Howley from last November’s print issue. (Emphasis mine.)
Save the Males, Kathleen Parker’s 2008 polemic on sexual permissiveness and libertinism, contains the following euphemisms for vagina: “inner sanctum,” “familiars,” “you know what,” “very private parlor,” “sacred vessel,” “vestal vestibule,” and “hirsute abyss of God’s little oven.” We will be, laments Parker in her obligatory chapter on Eve Ensler’s The Vagina Monologues, so “awash in vaginaism,” that we are nothing beyond “vaginas on the plain seeking out other vaginas with which to hold hands and gaze unlongingly into the silky night of a manless moon.” We have abandoned a better, gentler America, a place where women were “above this sort of thing,” a nation where men did not “talk about vaginas in public.”
Funny. Just yesterday a friend asked me about unusual vaginal discharge and I told her what I knew about it. Worse (from Kathleen Parker’s perspective, I suppose) I grabbed a couple of medical reference books, did some follow-up research on Google, and we talked about that too.
Here’s where it gets tricky. Because I’ve been in intimate relationships with women for a number of decades, and therefore I’m relatively familiar with different kinds of discharges, I briefly considered suggesting I take a quick look at her vagina. I balked, however, because in order to do that I’d have seen her vulva as well. We’re not on those sort of terms, however, and so I don’t think either of us would have been comfortable with that.
While I feel Parker should feel reassured by my reservations I have a feeling she wouldn’t be. I expect she’d be appalled that I’m familiar enough with “inner sanctums,” “familars,” “you know whats,” “hirstute abyss of God’s little ovens” (though statistics suggest these days they’re actually hirsute only about half the time), and “down theres” that I can distinguish vaginas from vulvas.
Meanwhile I’m embarrassed that Parker doesn’t make the distinction.
And speaking of distinctions, what’s the difference between “talking about vaginas in public” and writing about them, disparagingly no less, in the pages of the Washington Post?
Via Jonathan Chait at The New Republic
Disney is demanding that actresses auditioning for “Pirates of the Caribbean 4” must not have breast implants.
Others can discuss the merits of a casting call that reads a bit too much like a particularly stringent Weight-Height-Proportional clause in a Craigslist personals ad. I’m just going to point out that when I first read the headline I assumed it was yet another silly middle-school level proposal cooked up by Republicans to obstruct amend the HRC reconciliation bill.
As you may have heard it was a reasonable error on my part.
In a news-roundup item BarbinMD of Daily Kos says
Republicans are “quietly asking” if John Ensign (R-NV) can serve effectively in the wake of his sex scandal. You’d think the “family values” crowd would be shouting it from the rooftops … which of course they would be if Ensign was a Democrat.
Remember it’s not so much that it’s ok if you are a Republican (IOKIYAR), it’s that it’s just not news when a Republican does it (IJNNWACDU.) Might as well write stories about dogs biting humans. Pretty much by definition nobody expects morality from conservatives so journalists mostly don’t bother making a big deal out of it when they do.
Summary: Carrie Prejean disgraced herself by publicly opposing same-sex marriage, not for either having a sex life or camera-phoning herself. Sungold proposes an unusual but sensible way she could at least partly redeem herself. Further down, reflections by Sungold, Blue Gal, and Melissa McEwan on the way Prejean’s partner only disgraced himself.
Sungold of Kittywampus says, in all earnestness, that it would be an all-round good thing if conservative-Christian Carrie Prejean just let go of the “scandal” about the private masturbation videos she emailed her erstwhile fiance and let everyone who’s “scandalized” about it fall on their keisters.
After mentioning the disgraceful dismissal of Clinton-era Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders for recommending that we teach young people that masturbation is a safe and effective alternative to partnered sex, Sungold says
Maybe it’s time for us to catch up with history. Here’s where Prejean could play a pivotal role. She could go on Larry King and say, “I’m not here to talk about that tape, which my asshole ex had no right to release. But I will say this: What I did on that tape was perfectly normal. Self-pleasure is perfectly compatible with my Christian beliefs. It’s a great way to get to know your body before you’re ready for partnered sex. It’s a wonderful way to extend your pleasure with a partner. If you’re waiting for marriage to have intercourse, masturbation can help you wait, and you’ll be a better lover when you do say yes.”
I’m still not snarking. If we could just get all those “good Christians” to admit they do it, all of us might be able to have open conversations about it without anyone getting fired or censored.
Incidentally I’m not snarking either. I’m aware that Prejean might decline to do so, but I’m… pretty sure she’s got the really, seriously, no twits-vs-substance credentials to do so. It would be doing the world a favor and, very likely, do more to promote alternatives to intercourse and other forms of partnered sex than any number of conventional abstinence messaging.
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On a side note I’d add that the less-than-forthright way Prejean has dealt with the revelations seem to have been more damaging to her reputation than the existence of the tapes themselves. They were, after all, perfectly ordinary communications with a partner she was committed to and trusted… which means pretty much the only thing the partner “revealed” was that not only should no future partner trust his honesty, integrity, or discretion but neither should any future employer or client. Further down in her post Sungold nicely addresses the issue of the former partner by the way.
Update: Although see also Blue Gal’s The Donald advises Carrie to become “major porn star”? I’m not going to say the fact that Trump’s recommendation is diametrically opposite Sungold’s is itself a demonstration that she’s on the right track. But…
Update: And also see Melissa’s awesome dissection of Prejean and twits vs. substance at Shakesville.
In principle there’s nothing wrong with sex with another person. Or, particularly, about bragging about it. Not even if you’re married, assuming your marriage partner is ok with it. Not even if your sex partner(s) are married, assuming it’s ok with their partners. There’s even nothing wrong with it even if you’re a California State Assemblyman.
Yeah, it gets a little iffier if you’re a California State Assemblyman with a 100% approval rating for “family values” voting from a subsidiary of the right-wing Focus on the Family, although it might not sit well with FoF to learn you’re actually an adulterous braggart.
There is a problem, however, if you’re a California State Assemblyman, and the chair of the Utilities and Commerce committee and your sex partners are paid lobbyists for an energy company your committee regulates! That’s the real story in the following video clip.
The real scandal? “The Assembly Legislative Ethics Committee is looking into the reports about Duvall’s alleged relationship with the lobbyist, a source close to the committee said this morning. “
Now we’re getting somewhere! People have sex. Sex is messy. Some people think messy sex is sexy. Other people think their way of doing sex is great and everyone else’s is gross. That’s not going anywhere.
What does need to go somewhere, though, is that he was doing these things with lobbyists. Because even if Duvall’s marital partner knew and approved, and even if his sex partner’s husbands knew and approved, it would still be a scandal that he was having sex with lobbyists for a company his committee has jurisdiction over.
It wouldn’t just be scandalous in terms of exchange of favors (which is how a lot of people seem to be reading it with their “little more than prostitutes” quips.) It would also be scandalous in terms of sexual-harassment-type power differentials between people seeking changes in legislation and someone in a position to make those changes.
Meanwhile people around the web seem to be focusing on the sex part. And the Focus-on-the-Family hypocrisy part.
But yes, by all means, go all knee-squeezy because someone had sex. Gag and heave all you like about his explicit language. And yes, definitely, absolutely take him to task for being the slimy hypocrite he is. But first put this man out of his chairmanship, off the committee, out of the Assembly, and, if possible, in jail for the real scandal of being that intimate with lobbyists or allowing them to be that intimate with him.
Those of us on the left are even more likely than those on the right to stop at twittery about sex at the expense of substance.
Update: According to the L.A. Times Duvall is resigning (emphasis mine)
“I am deeply saddened that my inappropriate comments have become a major distraction for my colleagues in the Assembly, who are working hard on the very serious problems facing our state,” he said in a statement posted on his website. “I have come to the conclusion that it would not be fair to my family, my constituents or to my friends on both sides of the aisle to remain in office. Therefore, I have decided to resign my office, effective immediately, so that the Assembly can get back to work.”
No, he’s not deeply saddened about his comments. He’s instead deeply hoping that knee-squeezing twittery about having sex with another decision-capable adult will trump the substance of potential criminal wrongdoing of a decidedly non-sexual nature. It’s not his inappropriate comments, or the specific sexual activities he was describing when he made those comments. It’s that he was literally in bed with lobbyists for an energy company his committee is supposed to be regulating.
Oh, and while I was Googling around for a post I’m writing up at my place I found a note at SF Gate that the energy company may have instead hired the lobbyists specifically because of her prior sexual access to him. In which case not only should he face trial and jail, so should the lobbyists and the corporate staff that hired them.
(I first found out about the Duvall story from Pam Spaulding.)
Laura Clawson of Daily Kos delves into why, by Republican standards, it’s fine for Sen. Vitter to keep his committee appointments after fetish-y sex with prostitutes even though Sen. Ensign felt obliged to resign from his assignments after an vanilla love affair with a campaign staffer.
The most obvious interpretation is therefore that what Ensign did was worse (though Vitter’s was still a very serious sin!). But a Louisiana pollster quoted in Roll Call has another theory:
“I don’t think this will help or hurt Vitter,” Pinsonat said. “If anything, it leans towards helping him because … the more this stuff happens the more it becomes ho-hum. You can’t say it’s just David Vitter. ... It happens so often, I don’t think it’s as stunning an event as it was 15 years ago.”
So two lessons to keep in mind when planning your adultery: Better a professional than an employee, and if you’re lucky enough to be a Republican lawmaker, thanks to the efforts of Vitter, Larry Craig, Newt Gingrich, John Ensign, and so many others, you are now good to go.
To be honest that’s probably, approximately, right. Neither Ensign nor Vitter should resign anything because their sex lives don’t match conventional demands. Although they probably ought to resign for continuing to advocate legislation and policy that contradicts their direct knowledge and experience.
If you set aside snark, priggishness, twittery, and sarcasm the issue isn’t moral hypocrisy, it’s a question of — as I first said in the case Bush-era “AIDS czar” Randall Tobias — how they can continue to advocate public health, education, and legal programs intended to sometimes-harshly enforce abstinence, monogamy, and, say, heteronormativity when their personal experience makes it clear that those policies aren’t, and perhaps can’t be effective.
There’s an integrity problem here, but it’s not about who wets his whistle where.
Y’know how those “Million and One Sex Positions” manuals (all inevitably hetero) you see all over the place? The ones with either highly-stylized stick figures (some with translucent overlays) or else even more highly-stylized photographs of recruiting-poster-perfect people with model-blank expressions and static-figure positions? You know how they give you the impression this is All Serious Business because they’re just so stick-up-the-butt… well… All Serious Business?
Jayme Waxman of Sex Matters sets us straight in a nifty, off-the-cuff video post.
After overdosing on a slew of sex positions, here’s a random thought about why you would even try some of the most ridiculous of positions…
Sex Positions: It’s all about the smile from Jamye Waxman on Vimeo.
It’s startling sometimes just how entrenched the whole “for purposes of reproduction only” theory of sex is. Even when there’s no intention… or (since not all sex involves interlocking between fertile heterosexuals) no possibility of reproduction.
And I think, in the west at least, and it looks like a couple of the other major world cultures, it’s got a lot to do with philosophical or religious wariness of pleasure in the corporeal world. With the result that when it is discussed publicly it’s discussed soberly, non-salaciously, with an eye towards reproduction… or prevention thereof… for purposes of health… or prevention of disease… or more egalitarian allocation of “marital bliss.” And, most ‘specially, for purposes of education. Without which UR Duin it Wrong!
With the further result that the idea that some positions when someone says “are they serious” the correct answer might be “actually… no.” :-)
Twisty Faster of I Blame the Patriarchy digs up a howler of a sociobiology-oriented “research” article from the BBC.
Chimpanzees enter into “deals” whereby they exchange meat for sex, according to researchers.
It goes without saying, since “male” is always the default, that by “chimpanzees” the article means male chimpanzees, and that by “sex” it means “copulation.” Female chimpanzees do not, apparently, exchange meat for sex. Their role is not active. The females passively accept meat from males whereupon they are adjudged to be under an obligation put out over the long term. The article portrays them as recipients of male largesse and as receptacles.
After various not-inappropriate fulminations Twisty quotes the author committing a classic fallacy of appeal to (self) authority.
This has got me really interested in humans,” [said researcher/chimp voyeur Cristina Gomes]. “I’m thinking of moving on to working with hunter-gatherers.”
Tempting as it is to flame the implicit racism in the idea of “moving on” to hunter-gatherers and skip straight to the part about how a primate researcher qualified enough to make credible pronouncements about chimpanzee sex-for-food behavior has no more qualifications to study humans than a veterinarian would be qualified to treat people.
Heck, let’s skip that part too and go straight to the part where people who call themselves scientists ought to think twice before anthropomorphizing animals in ways that confirm dominant paradigms about human society.
Stephanie Coontz, who was and is a radical Trotskyite and hard-core radical feminist professor at the school I went to, used to tell her students that the difference between science and propaganda is that propagandists look for evidence that supports what they believe while scientists look for evidence that disproves what they believe. By her criteria Ev-Psych flunks the “it’s science” test stem to stern.
Not to try to get too (lower-case) twisty about it or anything but of course people who are so indoctrinated with patriarchy they think their justifications are scientific are going to assume that offering of food and/or sex has to be some kind of proto-prostitution. They can’t help themselves! Same with the original BBC article’s, um, wrong claim that female chimps don’t hunt. It doesn’t fit patriarchal ideology so they say it doesn’t happen. (It’s hard to Google for counterexamples at the moment because so many knee-squeezingly twittish sites are talking about this Christina Gomes character’s work but if you scroll down far enough you start seeing actual scientists saying they’re not only perfectly capable but innovative and sophisticated at it.**)
Anyway, what really chaffs my armpit hair is that while everybody’s running around trying to prove that we’re all helpless against patriarchy because monkeys, or ducks, or microscopic parasitic worms do it too they’re missing the chance to look for different metaphors in animal behavior we could, I dunno, use to subvert patriarchy.
I mean… if one is going to bother anthropomorphizing why not say female chimps decide that males that can hunt are just less boring? Or smell better? Or remind them of their mothers who brought them food when they were little? I mean, sure, patriarchy can’t see anything but hapless females and male coercion but… last I looked that was a problem with observer bias, not what might actually be going on.
[** Consider that researchers studied chimps for generations before noticing they ate meat at all, let alone killed and ate meat, let alone involved it in mating behavior. So… exactly what are the odds the first recorded instance of a female chimp improvising a spear to stab and fish out hibernating squirrels is the first time a female chimp has done it? Small? Or really, really small? —fl]